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TELECOM Digest Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:00:00 EST Volume 26 : Issue 22
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Re: Is Your Telephone AC Power Dependent? (Sam Spade)
Re: Is Your Telephone AC Power Dependent? (Steven Stone)
Re: Vista: Worthy, Largely Unexciting (Steven Stone)
Re: Hell Continues to Freeze Over (Jim Rusling)
Re: Hell Continues to Freeze Over (hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com)
Re: Hell Continues to Freeze Over (Wesrock@aol.com)
Re: Hell Continues to Freeze Over (Rick Merrill)
Re: Hell Continues to Freeze Over (T)
Re: Hell Continues to Freeze Over (Paul)
Re: Don't Call. Don't Write. Let Me Be. (hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com)
More About Hell Freezing and my Dog (TELECOM Digest Editor)
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From: Sam Spade <Sam@coldmail.com>
Subject: Is Your Telephone AC Power Dependent?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:47:22 -0800
Organization: Cox
Thomas D. Horne wrote:
> Pat,
> I don't mean to be insulting with this question so if it is
> too obvious please forgive me. Is at least one telephone line
> into your home exchange powered copper twisted pair? Do you
> have a cell phone in case your line goes down?
> -- Tom Horne
I have two telephone lines in my house, Vonage and a power-independent
AT&T local loop line.
I don't consider a cell phone to be a phone. It is a crummy little
radio that connects to the switched public network.
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From: Steven Stone <xxspfleck@xxcitlink.net>
Subject: Re: Is Your Telephone AC Power Dependent?
Organization: Lesser Woodchucks of Upper North America
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:37:43 GMT
In article <telecom26.21.5@telecom-digest.org>, hornetd@mindspring.com
says:
> Pat,
> I don't mean to be insulting with this question so if it is
> too obvious please forgive me. Is at least one telephone line
> into your home exchange powered copper twisted pair? Do you
Doesn't the cell tower connect to the rest of the world via copper or
fiber feed ? How many of those towers have backup power ? The
majority of tower sites in my rural area have 4 hours of battery
backup without an on site generator. After 4 hours you are SOL.
That's why our local ham radio repeater is located at one of the few
cell tower sites with a standby generator. We also have 48 hours of
battery backup.
Steve
N2UBP
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From: Steven Stone <xxspfleck@xxcitlink.net>
Subject: Re: Vista: Worthy, Largely Unexciting
Organization: Lesser Woodchucks of Upper North America
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:44:14 GMT
In article <telecom26.21.1@telecom-digest.org>, monty@roscom.com
says:
> BY WALTER S. MOSSBERG
> A new version of Microsoft Windows, the world's most popular and
> important computer operating system, will finally arrive for consumers
> on Jan. 30. It has taken the giant software maker more than five years
I popped into Staples today to pick up some CD-R's. An employee saw
me browsing the isles and suggested I come back in 3 weeks or so when
Vista arrives. They expect a new computer feeding frenzy. Unless
there is a need I always wait for version 2.0 to come out before
jumping on the band wagon.
Steve
n2ubp
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From: Jim Rusling <usenet@rusling.org>
Subject: Re: Hell Continues to Freeze Over
Organization: Retired
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:38:48 -0600
T <nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net> wrote:
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I wonder where I could buy one of those
> devices for my shoes? Maybe next time I happen to go past Walmart I
> might (as I sniff and point my nose in the air) walk in the place and
> look to see if they have them. PAT]
I got a pair at Westlake Ace Hardware here in Oklahoma. They slip on
over you shoes and have steel studs in the bottom. They work very
well on ice, just don't wear them inside as they will tear the floors
up.
Jim Rusling
More or Less Retired
Mustang, OK
http://www.rusling.org
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From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Subject: Re: Hell Continues to Freeze Over
Date: 21 Jan 2007 11:08:21 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There is a small convenience store five
> blocks north of me on Main and Fourth Street. (A Dollar General
> place). They sell animal food, soda pop, potato chips, etc and if my
> motorized chair arrives sometime this week I will be able to get by
> I am sure.
We have a chain known as "Wawa" (for their HQ town) that is very good.
A few things are a bit pricey though others are competitively priced.
If you need only a couple of things it's cheaper to go there than
spend gas to the supermarket. The Wawa company is privately own (the
stock is not publicly traded), and all the stores are company owned
(no franchises). They keep their stores very clean and very well run.
Working there is a killer, but they give very good benefits to those
who can take it. We also have the national chain "7-11", but I will
not comment on them.
> But if it does not arrive, there is still the taxicab ...
> (Chad & grandmother...)
You're lucky you have good taxi service. Ours stinks. The cab depot
is a good distance away and the drivers are pretty scuzzy. In the
city, the taxis were lousy too; my mother was very uncomfortable with
the drivers. She much preferred the private services.
Anyway, good luck with the storms.
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From: Wesrock@aol.com
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:22:51 EST
Subject: Re: Hell Continues to Freeze Over
In a message dated Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:04:30 -0500, T
<nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net> writes:
> There's something similar for those of us who like to walk no matter
> what the weather. I bought a pair of Yaktrax Pro shoe covers two years
> ago and haven't gotten a chance to use them yet.
> They snap over the bottom of your shoe and present a rubber matrix
> surrounded by steel coil to the ice, essentially increasing the
> pressure on each point. The USPS uses these in locations that get a
> lot of snow and ice and the study says it's eliminated slips and
> falls.
> Just a suggestion as I know broken bones don't heal as fast when one
> gets older.
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I wonder where I could buy one of those
> devices for my shoes? Maybe next time I happen to go past Walmart I
> might (as I sniff and point my nose in the air) walk in the place and
> look to see if they have them. PAT]
I ordered mine a couple of years ago, at the suggestion of my son. As
he did, I ordered mine from a firm called "R.U. Outside, Inc." by phone and
they arrived in about three days.
Shown below is the "How to Order" page from their website <ruoutside.com>
Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com
wleathus@yahoo.com
If you would rather place your order by phone you can call: (800) 279-7123,
or fax: (800) 704-8909
Or mail to:
R.U. Outside, Inc.
642 N. 1000 W. #108
Logan, UT 84321
Corporate Headquarters:
(208) 354-3455 or (866) 354-3455
Fax: (208) 354-3450
E-Mail:tetons@ruoutside.com
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:15:01 -0500
From: Rick Merrill <rick0.merrill@NOSPAM.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Hell Continues to Freeze Over
> And is it true that 'hot' water freezes faster than 'cold' water? When
> the plumber was out here once last fall to check on my pipes, he
> cautioned me, "when the outside temperaure becomes extreme always be
> sure to have your cold water line running slowly (just a slight
> trickle) all night long to prevent freezing. _NOT_ the hot water line
> but the COLD water line, mainly, I suppose, because it is all 'cold'
> water coming from the street through the meter to my house; it only
> gets 'hot' when my hot-water heater inside prepares it. The plumber
> told me that chemicals in the water boiled away during heating and
> that the 'hot' water got cold (and eventually frozen) faster than
> the 'cold' water got colder (and eventually frozen). Any truth to
> that? I know it seems odd to say 'hot water freezes faster than cold
> water'.
The plumber's advice was sound because moving water does not freeze as
fast as still water.
The "hot water freezes faster than cold water" applies chiefly to water
that is open (like an ice cube tray) because the warm water evaporates
faster BUT as it evaporates it takes with it more energy! So if you
do the experiment in your freezer you should find that the 'hot' freezes
faster, BUT you have less ice remaining behind. So it goes;-)
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From: T <nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net>
Subject: Re: Hell Continues to Freeze Over
Organization: The Ace Tomato and Cement Company
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:53:46 -0500
In article <telecom26.21.6@telecom-digest.org>,
nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net says:
> In article <telecom26.20.8@telecom-digest.org>, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
> says:
>> Patrick Townson wrote:
>>> I mentioned here about a week ago that Hell, here in Independence, KS
>>> had frozen over with the ice storms of last weekend. Now here we are,
>>> a full week later, ice still over everything in sight...
>> Good luck with everything. I'm glad you still have power and phone
>> service and food deliveries.
>> When I was a kid we had an ice storm like that, everything covered in a
>> thick coating of extremely slippery but hard ice. It was horrible. In
>> those days many autos used tire chains actually which were pretty
>> effective, but murder if you got on dry pavement, and a pain to put on
>> and off. Links would break and bang around.
> There's something similar for those of us who like to walk no matter
> what the weather. I bought a pair of Yaktrax Pro shoe covers two years
> ago and haven't gotten a chance to use them yet.
> They snap over the bottom of your shoe and present a rubber matrix
> surrounded by steel coil to the ice, essentially increasing the
> pressure on each point. The USPS uses these in locations that get a
> lot of snow and ice and the study says it's eliminated slips and
> falls.
> Just a suggestion as I know broken bones don't heal as fast when one
> gets older.
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I wonder where I could buy one of those
> devices for my shoes? Maybe next time I happen to go past Walmart I
> might (as I sniff and point my nose in the air) walk in the place and
> look to see if they have them. PAT]
I bought mine online but I'd bet Walmart would have them.
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From: Paul <PSSawyer.does.not.want.spam@comcast.BAD.EXAMPLE.net>
Subject: Re: Hell Continues to Freeze Over
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:06:21 UTC
T <nospam.kd1s@cox.nospam.net> wrote in news:telecom26.21.6@telecom-
digest.org:
> There's something similar for those of us who like to walk no matter
> what the weather. I bought a pair of Yaktrax Pro shoe covers two years
> ago and haven't gotten a chance to use them yet.
> They snap over the bottom of your shoe and present a rubber matrix
> surrounded by steel coil to the ice, essentially increasing the
> pressure on each point. The USPS uses these in locations that get a
> lot of snow and ice and the study says it's eliminated slips and
> falls.
> Just a suggestion as I know broken bones don't heal as fast when one
> gets older.
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I wonder where I could buy one of those
> devices for my shoes? Maybe next time I happen to go past Walmart I
> might (as I sniff and point my nose in the air) walk in the place and
> look to see if they have them. PAT]
See: http://www.yaktrax.com/products.aspx
My son gave me some for Christmas -- I never thought I would use them, but
we have had about 4 days straight of ice (NH), and they worked very well!
We are thawing a bit now.
Best wishes.
Paul
------------------------------
From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Subject: Re: Don't Call. Don't Write. Let Me Be.
Date: 21 Jan 2007 19:38:12 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Monty Solomon wrote:
> YOUR MONEY
> Don't Call. Don't Write. Let Me Be.
> By DAMON DARLIN
> The fears of the direct marketing industry came true. Once a
> do-not-call list was created, people did register, in droves.
Unfortunately, there are too many exceptions. Non-profit
organizations and politicians can still make unwanted soliciting calls
and they do so in droves. Past contacts may call as well, and "past
contact" is a very loose definition.
Some callers simply disregard the law, knowing they'll get away with it.
------------------------------
Subject: More About Hell Freezing and my Dog
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:17:28 EST
From: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor)
We have been chatting about weather conditions here in Hell recently,
and I observed in a note:
> ... when I call Chad or grandma on the phone to come and pick me up,
> they drive about _thisclose_ to the fence on that side so I can open
> the gate (and hopefully close it before the dog gets away) while
> leaning on the fence, then with a step or two I lean on the cab and
> open the door. But the dog is smart -- a lot smarter than me, I
> think -- and he is there lurking to run off when the gate is
> open. But the dog is leary of my metal cane, and when I shake it at
> him and make a growling noise he usually backs up and lets me get
> out.
The thing I feared the most, that the dog would run off when the gate
was open happened in the middle of last week, the 'ice storm
week'. The mailman, trying to be helpful knows how bad my front porch
is lately (with streams or rivets of ice on all the stairs and the
stoop itself) and how my health is lately (since my bout with
pneumonia several months ago, I have gotten progressively weaker when
trying to walk around). He rapped on my kitchen window a few days ago
and said "I am going to put your mail over here" (meaning a spot in
the chain-link fence where I could walk out my back door and get it. I
told him 'thanks' and walked out the back door to get the mail.
Naturally, Willis the dog was right on my heels when I opened the back
door and he slipped right out between my feet when the door was open.
Off he runs, but I think nothing of it; a fence is entirely around
much of the yard; let him run and have some fun. Then in chatting
with the mailman I happen to look and see the front gate is _open_;
the mailman had not closed it when he walked inside. No Willis the dog
anywhere in sight. He had seen the open gate and made a break for his
freedom.
Now in the past he has run off like that; and like a damn fool, I try
chasing him up and down the street, but never can catch him; if I had
followed him all day for several blocks I would not get him; if dogs
do not wish to be caught, they won't be. He fears if he does get
caught he will feel my wrath with a newspaper rolled up or the fly
swatter. I went back inside and took a paper plate and put a fistfull
of raw hamburger meat on it, went outside and sat in a chair on my
back yard patio, with the paper plate and meat sitting next to me.
Presently I hear quite a fuss from down the alley; five or six dogs
all barking at once. Willis is a very high strung minature pincher
with a very high-pitched bark. He is about a year old. He had gone
down to visit the two female dogs a few doors away. Now, Willis is
'fixed' and so are the two female dogs, but that does not keep them
from visiting and associating, as per the loud unsynched barking from
down the alley. Presently he comes running down the alley toward my
place (by this point I had opened the back gate as well, so he would
be able to get in when he got the scent of the hamburger meat.) In
he comes running, I let him get a good look at the meat, and get a
smell of it. While he is jumping up and down all excited, I took
the dish and said "come on in, dog, it is time for your dinner".
He was thrilled and when I opened my back door holding the paper
plate of meat just out of his reach he followed me right back inside.
Slam! I _quickly_ shut the door with him inside, and the plate of
meat, went out and re-closed the open gate. I think Willis realized
he had been tricked because he started crying and whining like a
spoiled baby and/or a very pampered but spoiled dog. Gate is then
closed; _then_ I opened the back door and went inside. Door comes
open, dog jumps out eager for more meat, but there wasn't any more
for him. I close the door and dog decides to go jump on his
favorite chair next to the furnace vent and go to sleep. The way
his little brain works, I am sure he thought with all this ice and
snow I was going to chase him up and down the alley with my
fly swatter or newspaper rolled up, and he was going to teach me a
lesson for chasing him like that. We both got what we wanted. He
got his fist full of raw hamburger meat and I got my dog back.
PAT
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