For your convenience in reading: Subject lines are printed in RED and
Moderator replies when issued appear in BROWN.
Previous Issue (just one)
Classified Ads
TD Extra News
Add this Digest to your personal
or  
Read Daily Spam News
|
TELECOM Digest Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:03:00 EDT Volume 26 : Issue 199
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
No Phone Calls Allowed For Many Detainees (Spencewr S. Hsu, Wash Post)
Users Threaten Mobile Phone Security; Not Malware (Liam Tung)
Removing SSH on PIX (Represto)
NTT DoCoMo Feels the Need For Speed (USTelecom dailyLead)
Grandcentral - Google Phone (www.Queensbridge.us)
Re: Cell Phone Numbers and Do Not Call List (Henry)
Re: Cell Phone Numbers and Do Not Call List (Matt Simpson)
Re: Cell Phone Numbers and Do Not Call List (Scott Dorsey)
Re: Enrico Fermi and the First Atomic Bomb Test Explosion (Lisa Hancock)
Re: Where Did This Call Come From? (mc)
Re: Where Did This Call Come From? (Colin)
Re: Where Did This Call Come From? (ranck@vt.edu)
Re: Where Did This Call Come From? (Juan Monico)
====== 26 years of TELECOM Digest -- Founded August 21, 1981 ======
Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the
Internet. All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and
the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other
journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are
included in the fair use quote. By using -any name or email address-
included herein for -any- reason other than responding to an article
herein, you agree to pay a hundred dollars to the recipients of the
email.
===========================
Addresses herein are not to be added to any mailing list, nor to be
sold or given away without explicit written consent. Chain letters,
viruses, porn, spam, and miscellaneous junk are definitely unwelcome.
We must fight spam for the same reason we fight crime: not because we
are naive enough to believe that we will ever stamp it out, but because
we do not want the kind of world that results when no one stands
against crime. Geoffrey Welsh
===========================
See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details
and the name of our lawyer; other stuff of interest, and why not
support Net Freedom Now http://www.savetheinternet.com/
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:24:07 -0500
From: Spencer S. Hsu, Washingon Post <washpost@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: No Phone Calls Allowed For Many Detainees
GAO Report Cites Violations of Guidelines for Dealing With Immigrants
By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
The number of immigrants detained by the United States has grown from
90,000 to 283,000 over the past five years, and many were improperly
barred from making even a single phone call to a lawyer, congressional
investigators reported this week.
Detainees' calls were completed 35 to 74 percent of the time each
month between November 2005 and November 2006, according to the
Government Accountability Office, Congress's audit arm.
The United States uses a criminal-detention model to hold immigrants,
although most are charged with administrative violations of
immigration laws. The detainees are not guaranteed the protections
routinely provided to U.S. citizens or criminal defendants, including
access to public defenders. As a result, federal authorities have
agreed to 38 nonbinding detention guidelines with the American Bar
Association as a form of due process, including providing telephone
access to legal counsel.
"Without sufficient internal control policies and procedures in place,
ICE is unable to offer assurance that detainees can access legal
services, file external grievances and obtain assistance from their
consulates," the July 6 GAO report said, referring to the Immigration
and Customs Enforcement agency.
Concern about potential mistreatment has grown in Congress and among
civil liberties groups as a national enforcement crackdown has sent
the detention population soaring. "The importance of meaningful access
to legal representation and materials for individuals in immigration
detention cannot be overstated," said Karen J. Mathis, president of
the American Bar Association, whose staff praised the GAO's
work. "When the detention standards are not implemented properly
... immigrants in detention are denied due process."
ICE spokeswoman Jamie Zuieback said her agency has agreed to improve
its telephone service and contractor oversight. "We are encouraged by
the finding in the GAO's most recent report, which notes that
detention facilities generally complied" with ICE's standards, even
though the size of the detainee population had tripled, she said.
The GAO said that its investigation of 23 detention sites was not
scientific and that the results cannot be projected to all 352
sites. It reported pervasive telephone system failings and isolated
violations of at least one of eight standards audited -- including
those on food, medical care and use of force -- at nine sites studied.
For example, four facilities did not fully comply with grievance
standards. The same number reported overcrowding of as much as double
their rated capacity and "triple-bunking" in detainee cells built for
two. The overcrowding is the subject of pending litigation by the
American Civil Liberties Union.
The GAO report said ICE's Detention and Removal Operations unit also
did not reliably track the number of complaints received or their
outcome. "Standards for internal control in the federal government
call for clear documentation of transactions and events" to ensure
that "potential systemic problems throughout the detention system" can
be detected, the investigators wrote.
The increase in detentions is a result of the stepped-up enforcement
campaign that was meant to underpin the Bush administration's
immigration overhaul effort, which failed. The daily detention
population increased from 19,718 in 2005 to about 26,500 in February,
even as officials sped up or denied additional hearings for detainees
and deported virtually all the non-Mexican ones.
Illegal immigrants spent an average of 37.6 days in custody as of
April, although a fourth of them, about 70,000, were held for more
than 44 days, and 5 percent, about 14,000, were detained for more than
four months. Federal law provides illegal immigrants 30 days to go to
an appeals board and the courts before the rulings against them become
final.
NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the
daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at
http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new
articles daily. And, discuss this and other topics in our forum at
http://telecom-digest.org/forum (or)
http://telecom-digest.org/chat/index.html
For more news and headlines, please go to:
http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/newstoday.html
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This sounds a lot like Cook County Jail
in Chicago. The only communication with the outside world possible
for inmates is via _collect call only_ style payphones, and finding
one of those in working order is a miracle. I had _thought_ police
were supposed to give prospective inmates ONE FREE PHONE CALL at the
time of arrest, _NOT_ one phone call on a collect basis that you may
or may not be allowed to make at some later point. But I guess that
shows how little I know about anything. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:30:32 -0500
From: Liam Tung, ZDNet <zdnet@telecom-digest.org>
Subject: Users Threaten Mobile Phone Security; Not Malware
By Liam Tung, ZDNet Australia
URL:
http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/communications/0,39044192,62028360,00.htm
Users are the weakest link when it comes to protecting information
systems because of social engineering, which relies on the
manipulation of people rather than machines.
The same trickery is being used against mobile phone users--despite
attempts by companies such as Nokia to create relatively secure
operating systems such as the market leader, Symbian.
F-Secure security expert, Patrik Runald, said in an interview with
ZDNet Asia's sister site, ZDNet Australia, last week that the Symbian
operating system is "fairly secure".
"All the malware we've seen so far relies on the user installing it
themselves, bypassing three to four security warnings, so there hasn't
really been a flaw in the operating system," he said.
Runald admits some problems may be caused by unclear instructions on
the user-interface (UI) but, by and large, it is caused by users
ignoring warning signs.
Runald said that there have been a few cases where cyber criminals
have disguised files to make them look like an interesting shareware
or freeware, but mostly he blames user ignorance.
"They think it's about ringtones, games, wallpapers, videos; all good
and fun things but there are actually malicious things out there as
well," said Runald.
Threat from Bluetooth
Bluetooth users may find themselves asked the question "Would you like
to install this program now?" When they click "no", the question
persists. Often immediately until they choose the other option out of
frustration. "That's the reason why people get infected: because they
repeatedly click no and obviously 'no' doesn't work and so they
click 'yes' and they get infected," said Runald.
When faced with this, Runald advises users to "Just walk away".
"Bluetooth has a very limited range -- it's about 15 to 20
meters. Then go into your Bluetooth settings and disable Bluetooth
completely or make it hidden for all other devices," he added.
------------------------------
Date: 13 Jul 2007 10:11:03 -0700
From: Represto <joshua.arsenio@gmail.com>
Subject: Removing SSH on PIX
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Hello all,
This might seem like a simple answer for most, but I just want to make
sure that I'm not missing something.
I need to remove all remote access (SSH) into my PIX. All
administration will be done directly from the console port.
Can I just enter this command for every ssh entry in my config?
hostname(config)# no ssh 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.255 inside
Thanx.
------------------------------
Date: 13 Jul 2007 12:26:52 -0500
From: USTelecom dailyLead <ustelecom@dailylead.com>
Subject: NTT DoCoMo Feels the Need For Speed
USTelecom dailyLead
July 13, 2007
http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/hvzQfDtusXvCepCibuddDyOj
TODAY'S HEADLINES
NEWS OF THE DAY
* NTT DoCoMo feels the need for speed
BUSINESS & INDUSTRY WATCH
* Motorola CEO getting Internet pressure
* Report: Hanaro Telecom draws no domestic bidders
* China Netcom executive moves to China Unicom
* Google CEO: "Viacom is a company built from lawsuits"
TECHNOLOGY TRENDS
* Forecast: Europeans will double spending on Web ads in five years
* Analyst urges China to continue broadband growth
* Research: Suite bests breed in today's market
* IBM aims for India's Vodafone
IP DOWNLOAD
* Report: Two-thirds of consumers want TV to link with Web
* Startup lets you call using e-mail address
REGULATORY & LEGISLATIVE
* Verizon Wireless says open access will hurt innovation
Follow the link below to read quick summaries of these stories and others.
http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/hvzQfDtusXvCepCibuddDyOj
------------------------------
Date: 13 Jul 2007 21:53:26 -0000
From: www.Queensbridge.us <NOTvalid@Queensbridge.us>
Subject: Grandcentral - Google Phone
Organization: http://groups.google.com
I am surprised that I have not seen any comments about Grandcentral
phone.
See
http://www.grandcentral.com/home/intro
------------------------------
Date: 13 Jul 2007 09:25:00 +0300
From: Henry <henry999@eircom.net>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Numbers and Do Not Call List
Organization: Saunalahti Customer
<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
> I think this state of affairs sucks.
No argument there.
> The #@%$@# lobbyists force us consumers to accept this crap, they
> got the legislatures to water down laws.
Whoa, nelly.
Lobbyists don't / can't force consumers to do anything. Lobbyists
don't / can't force legislatures to do anything. Lobbyists are paid to
influence legislatures. Presumably, the clients who pay them want them
to do a good job. If said lobbyists have 'got' legislatures to do
something the client desires, then they have done a good job.
However ... legislatures are paid to represent the will of the people.
If legislatures 'water down laws' that the people, their clients,
desire, then said legislatures have not done a good job.
Remember: in a democracy, the people get the government they deserve.
Cheers,
Henry
------------------------------
Date: 13 Jul 2007 08:38:58 -0400
From: Matt Simpson <net-news69@jmatt.net>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Numbers and Do Not Call List
Organization: None
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: What does Snopes suggest doing in this
case: A phone number is _not_ on the DNC list. The nature or type of
phone is unknown, as to cell, private residence, nursing home, etc. Is
the solicitor supposed to NOT call the number since he does not know
for sure what category it is, or is he permitted one call in order to
find out, or? PAT]
------------------------------
Date: 13 Jul 2007 12:41:45 -0400
From: Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Numbers and Do Not Call List
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)
> I received an email from a gentleman here in the Atlanta area. He
> claims that the telemarketers will be allowed to call cell phones within
> the next couple of weeks and advised everyone to add their cell phones
> to the National Do Not Call List.
That's great! I received an email from a gentleman in Nigeria. He
claims that he has some money that he's going to send me if only I do
a few things.
And I hate to tell you this, but the accuracy of these two email messages
is about the same. Not, mind you, that cell phones don't get their share
of telemarketing calls anyway. It's just illegal, that's all.
Next time I suggest checking these things out on snopes.com rather than
on the telecom list.
scott
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I am just curious ... why would you
suggest checking it out on snopes.com rather than telecom-digest.org?
It is basically a telephone-related question. PAT]
------------------------------
Date: 13 Jul 2007 07:12:09 -0700
From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Subject: Re: Enrico Fermi and the First Atomic Bomb Test Explosion
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Pat,
I hate to be a wet blanket on this discussion, but I'm not sure if the
part on the local phones is true. Here are my thoughts on it:
1) The test, code named Trinity, has been extensively written about by
its participants. I don't recall anyone suggesting that the town's
local telephone operator caused any delay. (It's been awhile since I
read up on this stuff. If anyone is familiar with a published source
that describes this, please share it with us.)
2) The town hosted an important air force base. I suspect wartime
telephone traffic may have been high enough, even late at night, to
keep an operator somewhat busy.
3) Unattended switchboards with light overnight traffic were purposely
equipped with very loud bells to wake or fetch the operator when a
call came through. (Unless the operator forgot to turn on the bell
when she went to bed).
4) The writings say the army used its own radio communication system.
The histories describe the army laying its own communication lines,
and then needing to lay them again as other equipment accidently torn
them out. Thus, I don't think they were dependent on the civilian
telephone system.
5) Fermi was not an active participant in the test, but rather an
invited special guest. He and other guests were at an observation
point some distance away. Had he been delayed the test would still go
on. Fermi's claim to fame on the test was that he used a very simple
method to estimate the weapon's yield: he dropped some torn papers to
the ground and measured the distance they travelled before hitting the
ground, from that, his estimate turned out to be pretty accurate.
(Fermi's major achievement was the development of the nuclear reactor
which was first built in a handball court in a stadium. No shielding
at all.)
6) The test was on hold on account of the bad weather. Again, this
has been extensively written about in great detail. The time picked
for detonation was based on predictions of when the storms would leave
the area. I believe the time selected was decided long earlier and as
such, couldn't have been affected by local telephone service.
Some other comments on Trinity:
1) I don't think any local or state officials were told of the test.
There were plans to issue various press releases depending on the
results of the test. If the test was a dud, nothing would go out. If
the test worked, a press release that flare magazine ignited at the
air force base. If the test spread dangerous radiation and people
needed to be evacuated, they had prepared for that as well.
2) The test did produce some dangerous radioactive fallout that fell
on some ranchland and the army reacted to that. However, the army did
not expect fallout to be a problem in actual use since the weapon
would be detonated high up as an air burst, rather than close to the
ground where it would pull up the earth and irridate it.
Some scientists (like Fermi) died at a young age from a rare cancer,
but others lived to old age. It's hard to do a proper medical study
since back then there were many chemical and industrial pollutants
freely spewed into the air and almost everyone smoked. For example,
today we know that PCBs and asbestos are dangerous, but back then
those products were seen as beneficial and very widely used.
3) Some of the sand at grand zero got fused by the great heat into
glass crystals. Scientists took them as souvenirs, not realizing they
were radioactive. The attitude of radioactive safety back then was
drastically different than today. That is, back then they assumed a
human could safely tolerate much higher doses of radiation than is
known today. They did have extensive medical checks and safety
precautions for radiation, but scientists tended to be cavailier about
safety due to pressure from the war. Ironically, it was only until
after the war that two scientists at Los Alamos sadly died from
radiation posioning in lab accidents due to unnecessarily sloppy work.
4) The Manhattan Engineering District (it's real name) was the second
strictest military secret of the war (cryptography was the highest).
Security rules were strictly enforced. The army believed in
"compartmentalization" in which every worker was told only what he
needed to do his specific job and nothing more. Scientists chaffed
under these restrictions. The project had three major sites, Oak
Ridge, Los Alamos, and Hanford, plus numerous minor ones. At the major
sites workers and their families lived in special spartan housing on
the site under strict military control. The needs of families and the
military often clashed and many articles and books have been written
about life on the reservations.
But the Soviets penetrated the project with several effective spies.
Opened archives have subsequently shown that the Rosenbergs were
indeed quite guilty as espionage leaders (they spied on other
activites as well). They were offered a chance to avoid execution if
they cooperated but they refused.
5) Mrs. Fermi and her descendants have written a variety of
interesting books that I recommend. Rachel Fermi wrote an excellent
book, "Picturing the bomb : photographs from the secret world of the
Manhattan Project".
6) The Hanford Works was a pioneer application of industrial use of
CCTV. Cameras monitored highly radioactive processing chambers where
workers controled the units by remote control. (How the cameras
themselves were serviced and how well the fuzzy image quality of that
day allowed remote control work I don't know.)
7) During the war the workers' homes did not have telephones. A few
years after the war they were put in, a necessary amenity to attract
workers to stay with the projects.
The Los Alamos site was served by only two forest service lines.
The army demanded, without any explanation, that the local Bell
company install more lines and internal service. The local Bell
office and to search to find wire and parts as by that point in the
war nothing was easily available.
BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS:
There are a great many books written about the project. I do not
recommend those books with an agenda, such as preaching the bomb was
wrong, since such books over criticize the hard work of the project's
participants or army life. The project was unprecedented in that it
took leading scientists, locked them up behind barbed wire, and had
them focus on a single project. The sociology and administrative
aspects of such life are very interesting and something we can learn
from even today.
The lifestyle and attitudes of Americans in war in the 1940s was
very different than that of today, and using today's human relations
standards to judge life and work in those days is foolish.
I do recommend:
1) "Now it Can be Told" by General Groves. Groves was the tough non-
sense head of the entire project. He gives the history and why he
made the decisions he did and does not pull any punches. A good
insight into the military point of view.
2) "Surely you're joking, Mr. Feynman! : adventures of a curious
character" by Richard Phillips Feynman. Feynman was a scientist at
Los Alamos who did not like authority and had a strong sense of humor.
Tells how Feynman learned to crack safes.
3) "Manhattan Project; the untold story of the making of the atomic
bomb" by Stephane Groueff. This book focuses more on the industrial
side behind the scenes. It's the only book that I know of that covers
that area so thoroughly. The author is a bit preachy, though, heaping
generous praise on the inventors and engineers for their work (though
perhaps it is deserved).
4) "Dark Sun" by Richard Rhodes. This is mostly on the hydrogen bomb,
but it has some chapters on espionage using newly released secret US
and Soviet government archives. (Rhodes also wrote the definitive but
long book on the project.)
------------------------------
Date: 13 Jul 2007 00:15:27 -0400
From: mc <look@www.ai.uga.edu.for.address>
Subject: Re: Where Did This Call Come From?
Organization: BellSouth Internet Group
> Anything I can find on the Web seems to indicate that the leading "34"
> implies the call came from Spain, but the language is definitely not
> Spanish.
Does it sound related to Spanish? If so, consider Catalan.
Does it sound completely unintelligible even to a person who knows a lot of
languages? If so, maybe it's Basque.
------------------------------
Date: 13 Jul 2007 23:28:31 +1000
From: Colin <colins@swiftdsl.com.au>
Subject: Re: Where Did This Call Come From?
Mr. Land wrote:
> Hi,
> I received a cellphone voicemail from someone (I think in Europe) in a
> language I can't identify. My cellphone voicemail service will give
> me the originating number, and I'm trying to figure out where it came
> from and what language it's in.
> The source number as reported by my voicemail is of the form:
> 349502nnnnn
> (I've left out the last 5 digits to maintain anonymity of the caller.)
> Anything I can find on the Web seems to indicate that the leading "34"
> implies the call came from Spain, but the language is definitely not
> Spanish.
> Can anyone help?
> Thanks.
34950 is Almera in Spain on the Mediterranean coast. There are
probably more foreigners holidaying there (or retired there) than
there are Spaniards.
Colin
------------------------------
Date: 13 Jul 2007 15:25:08 +0000
From: ranck@vt.edu
Subject: Re: Where Did This Call Come From?
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia, USA
Mr. Land <graftonfot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I received a cellphone voicemail from someone (I think in Europe) in a
> language I can't identify.
> Anything I can find on the Web seems to indicate that the leading "34"
> implies the call came from Spain, but the language is definitely not
> Spanish.
The only thing I can think of is the language might be Basque. That
is a region of Spain with its own culture and language that is not
related to any other known language.
Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.
------------------------------
Date: 13 Jul 2007 08:39:27 -0700
From: Juan Monico <juan@monico.org>
Subject: Re: Where Did This Call Come From?
Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95
Mr. Land wrote:
> Hi,
> I received a cellphone voicemail from someone (I think in Europe) in a
> language I can't identify. My cellphone voicemail service will give
> me the originating number, and I'm trying to figure out where it came
> from and what language it's in.
> The source number as reported by my voicemail is of the form:
> 349502nnnnn
> (I've left out the last 5 digits to maintain anonymity of the caller.)
> Anything I can find on the Web seems to indicate that the leading "34"
> implies the call came from Spain, but the language is definitely not
> Spanish.
> Can anyone help?
> Thanks,
Basque, spoken in north-eastern Spain is the oldest known language in
the world. It is unrelated to any other language, and is believed to
date back to the stone age. It may also have been one of the half
dozen regional dialects of Spanish. Some of them like Galician, don't
sound like Spanish at all.
------------------------------
TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly to telecomm-
unications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in
addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as
Compuserve and America On Line, Yahoo Groups, and other forums. It is
also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup
'comp.dcom.telecom'.
TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational
service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents
of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in
some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work
and that of the original author.
Contact information: Patrick Townson/TELECOM Digest
Post Office Box 50
Independence, KS 67301
Phone: 620-402-0134
Fax 1: 775-255-9970
Fax 2: 530-309-7234
Fax 3: 208-692-5145
Email: editor@telecom-digest.org
Subscribe: telecom-subscribe@telecom-digest.org
Unsubscribe:telecom-unsubscribe@telecom-digest.org
This Digest is the oldest continuing e-journal about telecomm-
unications on the Internet, having been founded in August, 1981 and
published continuously since then. Our archives are available for
your review/research. We believe we are the oldest e-zine/mailing list
on the internet in any category!
URL information: http://telecom-digest.org
Anonymous FTP: mirror.lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/archives/
(or use our mirror site: ftp.epix.net/pub/telecom-archives)
RSS Syndication of TELECOM Digest: http://telecom-digest.org/rss.html
For syndication examples see http://feeds.feedburner.com/telecomDigest
*****************************************************************
Wild Jack Casino has long been recognized as one of the best online
casinos on the internet. While specializing in blackjack, Wild Jack
offers more than 300 exciting online real-money casino games,
including online slots, roulette, keno, craps, and more. Now, this
top _Blackjack Online Kasino_ http://de.wildjack.com/ is available
in Germany too. Take advantage of our generous sign-up bonuses, our
great promotions, our big payouts, and our courteous and professional
customer support team. Join Wildjack.de today!
*****************************************************************
One click a day feeds a person a meal. Go to http://www.thehungersite.com
Copyright 2007 ICB, Inc. and TELECOM Digest. All rights reserved.
Our attorney is Bill Levant, of Blue Bell, PA.
************************
Visit http://www.mstm.okstate.edu and take the next step in your
career with a Master of Science in Telecommunications Management
(MSTM) degree from Oklahoma State University (OSU). This 35
credit-hour interdisciplinary program is designed to give you the
skills necessary to manage telecommunications networks, including
data, video, and voice networks.
The MSTM degree draws on the expertise of the OSU's College
of Business Administration; the College of Arts and Sciences; and the
College of Engineering, Architecture and Technology. The program has
state-of-the-art lab facilities on the Stillwater and Tulsa campus
offering hands-on learning to enhance the program curriculum. Classes
are available in Stillwater, Tulsa, or through distance learning.
Please contact Jay Boyington for additional information at
405-744-9000, mstm-osu@okstate.edu, or visit the MSTM web site at
http://www.mstm.okstate.edu
************************
In addition, gifts from Mike Sandman, Chicago's Telecom Expert
have enabled me to replace some obsolete computer equipment and
enter the 21st century sort of on schedule. His mail order
telephone parts/supplies service based in the Chicago area has
been widely recognized by Digest readers as a reliable and very
inexpensive source of telecom-related equipment. Please request
a free catalog today at http://www.sandman.com
---------------------------------------------------------------
Finally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as
yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help
is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of fifty dollars
per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above.
Please make at least a single donation to cover the cost of processing
your name to the mailing list.
All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the
author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only
and messages should not be considered any official expression by the
organization.
End of TELECOM Digest V26 #199
******************************
|