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The Telecom Digest for January 11, 2011
Volume 30 : Issue 10 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:

Re: Against Headphones(David Clayton)
Re: More on abandonment of telephone directories(David Kaye)
Re: More on abandonment of telephone directories(Matt Simpson)
Re: More on abandonment of telephone directories(Lisa or Jeff)
Re: U.S.T.S.(Fred Goldstein)

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:29:06 +1100 From: David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Against Headphones Message-ID: <pan.2011.> On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:40:47 -0500, Monty Solomon wrote: > > Against Headphones > > By VIRGINIA HEFFERNAN > January 7, 2011 > > One in five teenagers in America can't hear rustles or whispers, according > to a study published in August in The Journal of the American Medical > Association. These teenagers exhibit what's known as slight hearing loss, > which means they often can't make out consonants like T's or K's, or the > plinking of raindrops. The word "talk" can sound like "aw." The number of > teenagers with hearing loss - from slight to severe - has jumped 33 > percent since 1994. > ........ > According > to that report, headphone users who listen to music at high volumes for > more than an hour a day risk permanent hearing loss after five years. > > Maybe the danger of digital culture to young people is not that they have > hummingbird attention spans but that they are going deaf. > > ... As someone who used to frequent live - and very loud - music performances, this will just be an addition to that way of damaging hearing that has been going on for decades now. I still recall coming out of my very first loud show and walking straight onto a road and almost being cleaned up by a truck - because I couldn't hear it coming, or anything much at all for the next couple of days! The worst thing that happens these days to me is when my mobile phone doesn't answer correctly and when I put it to my ear I get blasted with the uber-loud ringer - that physically stings as well as deafening that ear for a few minutes. -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have.
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:41:17 GMT From: sfdavidkaye2@yahoo.com (David Kaye) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: More on abandonment of telephone directories Message-ID: <iged6t$4nc$1@news.eternal-september.org> Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: >One person quoted in the article, a web publisher, asserts that people >don't want to receive telephone books anymore. I don't agree with >that. A distinction should be made between white pages and yellow pages. Many telcos are abandoning white pages, but yellow pages directories continue to hold strong everywhere. In fact, in recent years upstarts have such as Valley Yellow Pages in Northern California have tried to grab some of that money by publishing their own directories offset by about 4 months after the local telco yp has been distributed. In San Francisco, the current AT&T yp, just released in December, had 990 pages, not including special coupon pages. I advertise in several yp books and have had phenomenal success with it. But as for white pages, many telco companies have been petitioning their state PUCs to allow them to stop publishing them. I don't have any disagreement with that. I myself haven't looked up anybody in the local wp in probably 5 years.
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:10:05 -0500 From: Matt Simpson <net-news69@jmatt.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: More on abandonment of telephone directories Message-ID: <net-news69-258113.12100510012011@news.toast.net> In article <ig8nhq$g3$1@news.albasani.net>, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: > List consolidators sell information to other list consolidators and the > original source isn't associated with the record. A list with more records, > no matter how inaccurate, sells for more than a list with fewer. This > mitigates against correction. At least in this area, in addition to the "official" printed directory produced by the landline company (AT&T in my case), households receive several printed directories from other directory publishers. These publishers are just interested in the Yellow Pages advertising revenue. Presumably their white pages come from the same outdated inaccurate lists used by the online directories. Perhaps, as an alternative to the "official" printed directory, the wireline companies could ensure that customers have access to an online directory that is at least as accurate as a printed directory would have been: i.e. a database that is updated at least once/year with information pulled directly from the company's customer records. They could provide this themselves, or contract with some other company to provide it.
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:50:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: More on abandonment of telephone directories Message-ID: <4e70e7b5-c701-41ee-a270-d7df28494136@p7g2000prb.googlegroups.com> On Jan 7, 11:00 pm, "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote: > As a bad record stands as much of a chance as generating hits as a good > record does, there is no economic incentive to make any corrections > or to track a record back to its original source. > > Even worse are the number of list consolidators whose hits are used to > feed traffic to sites that sell out of date credit record headers, > pretending to be private investigators. They never tell you what > credit file these headers came from either, and they refuse to > remove listings for inaccuracy or for privacy. Again, there is money > to be made from out-of-date information. Sad and frustrating, but very true. What's particularly galling is that these 'searches' of inaccurate garbage are presented to us as an "improvement" over hardcopy directories issued by the telephone company. As mentioned, one of the promoters (see article) thinks this is really great. I'm afraid to think of what his excuse would be when presented with the above facts about the errors in their products. As an example of the inaccuracy of list consolidators: I received an mail ad addressed to father at my current home address. The only thing is that my father had been deceased for 25 years. Further, he never lived at my address and at the time he passed on, and I didn't live there either. Somehow they linked his name and my name and disregarded or didn't know he was deceased and issued it as a record. I went to the bank which sent me the solicitation and asked the manager about it, but naturally the local branch manager had no idea or any way of finding out what was going on; this was all done 'separately'. (I think these on-line directories are published by 'separate' units of the big phone companies so they can waive any kind of responsibility.) Speaking of banks, I was gonna sign up for 'on-line' banking. As I waded through the fine print, I discovered it included a right for them to spam me, that is, send me emails on ads for banking services as well as from 'affilliated companies". I immediately opted out of the registration process. None of the less, even the partial attempt was captured and immediately I began to receive their spam emails. I called the bank but their customer service center said it was 'handled separately' and there was nothing they can do. I told a manager in there they were responsible to fix the problem, "separate or not". In about a week the emails stopped. Speaking of commercial spam emails, one time I sent a news note to an engineering trade magazine, a pretty staid publication. I wouldn't have expected them to be into spam, but they were. They did not acknowledge my news note. However, several weeks later I began to get email ads from them as well as their advertisers. An attempt to unsubscribe didn't work. I didn't bother phoning them; fortunately it was an old email account. It bugs me that mail order films send me emails every few days about their products. How many freakin' bathing suits does one person need-- so why does a bathing suit maker spam me every few days?
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 23:36:14 -0500 From: Fred Goldstein <fgoldstein.SeeSigSpambait@wn2.wn.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: U.S.T.S. Message-ID: <20110110043622.0516634112@mailout.easydns.com> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) wrote, ... <markjcuccia@yahoo.com> wrote: > >The US competitive OCC (Other Common Carrier) IXC side of ITT/USTS, > >aka "ITT Longer Distance" (the marketing name), ultimately found its > >way into MCI (now VeriZon-Business/MCI), due to several mergers or > >takeovers, by way of ... "MetroMedia Long Distance" (which BTW was > >indeed at one time also associated with the 1960s/70s media company > >of the same name which owned radio and TV stations, Yes, and I have a 1995 "LDDS Worldcom" network map identifying its source as the engineering group in East Rutherford. That was ITTs before Bernie bought it. IIRC the Worldcom name itself came from ITT, which used it for its International Record Carrier division. Metromedia Long Distance was never much of anything, but MetroMedia Fiber Network was a fairly large CAP for a time. It had started as National Fiber Network. MMFN's idea was to pull a lot of strands around cities, to make dark fiber available. Alas, it didn't last... MMFN acquired AboveNet in 1999, chaptered out in 2001, and the assets were acquired and now operate under the AboveNet name. >Metromedia founder and CEO John Kluge died just last year. He started >Metromedia by acquiring the assets of the failing DuMont television >network from its founder and owner, Allen B. DuMont. Metromedia was >also in the cable TV business, if I recall correctly, but I can't find >immediate corroboration. I'm not sure if Metromedia had its own cable operations. One of its better-known operations, though, was its cellular company. Metromedia owned a number of cellular franchises for a time and was the actual owner of the Cellular One brand. They allowed other A-side ("non-wireline") licensees to use it, making it a national brand, even though it was not operated as a real franchise. Metromedia sold its cellular interests to SBC in 1987 and they used the Cellular One name until switching to Cingular. (Of course after SBC acquired AT&T, they rebranded it AT&T Mobility.) -- Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701
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