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The Telecom Digest for March 22, 2011
Volume 30 : Issue 73 : "text" Format


Messages in this Issue:
Re: AZ, MN, WA, FCC Approved CenturyLink/Qwest Merger; OR Still Needs to Approve (Andrew Carey)
Re: bye, bye T-Mobile (fwd) (John Mayson)
*72 during an incoming call? (AES)
Re: Annoyance Calls (Robert Bonomi)

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Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:14:28 -0700 From: Andrew Carey <carey.remove-this@and-this-too.ar-ballbat.org> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: AZ, MN, WA, FCC Approved CenturyLink/Qwest Merger; OR Still Needs to Approve Message-ID: <6B67401C-6B98-4836-AC22-881B11B233AE@ar-ballbat.org> > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:41 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Mark J. Cuccia" <markjcuccia@yahoo.com> > > But I don't seem to think that these US-West exchanges that were > sold off to PTI in the mid-1990s which have been subsequently > acquired by CenturyTel are still treated by regulatory as "legacy > BOCs" Exchanges follow the owning company not their historical status. For the most part, there is little to no regulation based on being a BOC vs. an independent anymore. All are covered as local exchange carriers, specifically, incumbent local exchange carriers. There are some differences based on the size of the carrier. In Oregon, for instance, an ILEC can be either a cooperative, a small telecommunications utility, or a large telecommunications utility. Qwest, Frontier, CenturyTel (formerly PTI now dba CenturyLink, the official name of the owning company), and United Telephone (owned by CenturyLink, formerly dba Sprint-United then Embarq) are all large telecommunications utilities and regulated as such. An interesting note on exchange pedigree is that Pacific Northwest Bell & United Telephone swapped several properties to better align their service area about 25 years ago. Those former PNB exchanges as now part of CenturyLink via Embarq. Of the former United Telephone exchanges, some are still with Qwest, but several others were sold along historical PNB exchanges to PTI 15 years ago and are also owned by CenturyLink as Mark mentions. For the utterly pedantic types out there, the official style was U S WEST (in caps and spaced), but most just used US West or USW.

Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:42:25 -0500 From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: bye, bye T-Mobile (fwd) Message-ID: <AANLkTinVCPLr2HHEmGHfE+_Tvi3oV4tiF7qrRcqbOoUF@mail.gmail.com> Any bets on when Verizon Wireless will make its move for Sprint/Nextel? -- John Mayson <john@mayson.us> Austin, Texas, USA

Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 08:39:38 -0700 From: AES <siegman@stanford.edu> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: *72 during an incoming call? Message-ID: <siegman-B32BEB.08393821032011@bmedcfsc-srv02.tufts.ad.tufts.edu> I know how to forward my own Comcast VOIP phone number to some other number by picking up my handset and dialing * 72 followed by that number. But there was a recent warning about a scam that involves being asked to dial * 72 while talking to an incoming call on your line -- a procedure I don't recall ever seeing mentioned anywhere. Does this exist? What does it do? What are the consequences? Some education for the innocent will be appreciated . . .

Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:52:47 -0500 From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Annoyance Calls Message-ID: <aq6dnQL9Z5CiGBvQnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@posted.nuvoxcommunications> In article <AANLkTi=pKPLhSsyqO-1-iM+kqhm4sbbutHZquyHBCOFN@mail.gmail.com>, John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote: >Speaking of annoyance calls. How do the "robodialers" that >telemarketers use work? Specifically how do they handle >out-of-service numbers? I thought that if an automated dialer hit an >out-of-service number enough times it was dropped from the table. _Intelligent_ robodialers listen for "SIT" tones, regular "busy" and "fast busy" signals. On the first instance of SIT for any of the various 'non-working number' types, the number is purged from the calling database. Unfortunately, many 'less than ethical' marketeers don't use that intelligence. >What got me thinking about this was I logged into my Google Voice >account this morning. About two years ago I agreed to a free 30-day >subscription to a business newspaper. I gave them my Google Voice >number which gave them the right to call me. What happened was I >never received the free trial, but they started calling asking me to >sign up for a paid subscription. I asked that they stop calling, but >they didn't. I was new to Google Voice at the time, so it took me a >couple of weeks to figure out I could block them. I did. Even if you 'gave consent' for them to call you, once you have asked them to stop calling, any further solicitation calls are a violation of the law, in the United States. >Here we are two years later and they are STILL calling me. What I'm >guessing is Google Voice tells them in a computer generated voice the >number is not in service. However no signaling information is going >back to them indicating the same. So the automated dialer just thinks >someone answered and the number is good, so I stay in their table. >It'd be no different than if I answered the phone and said, "This >number is no longer in service" and hung up. And I'm also guessing >there's nothing in the software (or if there is, it's being ignored) >telling them that despite calling me every single weekday for the last >two years I've never subscribed so perhaps there's a problem. Assuming you've got records of the calls, and can prove you gave them the 'put me on your do-not-call list' request, you've got the basis for a big lawsuit. Something on the order of $500,000 just in "statutory' damages. And, with that track record, it would be hard for them to rebut an 'intentional' actions claim, which authorizes treble damages. >At this point I'm really curious how long this is going to go on. :-)
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