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The Telecom Digest for March 30, 2011
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Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:49:21 -0600 From: Fred Atkinson <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com. Subject: Re: Annoyance Calls (again) Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> At 02:09 PM 3/28/2011, you wrote: >Fred Atkinson <email@example.com> wrote: > > >Well, > > > > I got another one. This time the number was: (956) 440-1397. > > > >I just let phone calls with strange area codes roll over to voicemail. When >I've answered them or called them back they've always been telemarketers. As I've perivously told you, when I call back all I get is an autodialer. I wish I could get a telemarketer when I call back. Then I could identify them, instruct them to put me on their DNC list, and [if necessary] take action. Regards, Fred
Date: 29 Mar 2011 08:04:16 -0000 From: "John Levine" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com. Subject: Re: Swiping Is the Easy Part Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> >> I cannot read a magnetic stripe unless I have physical possession; >> not true with proximity chips. > >This just screams "DESIGN ERROR"! There's also a contact version of EMV chips. Every credit and debit card in most countries other than the US has one. I don't entirely understand why the US banks are going straight to contactless. R's, John ***** Moderator's Note ***** Maybe it's because they let the other guys do the scut work for a change? Perhaps it's because they had an attack of common sense, and decided to let someone else do free R&D? Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:22:11 +1100 From: David Clayton <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org. Subject: Re: Swiping Is the Easy Part Message-ID: <email@example.com> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:32:00 +0000, Doug McIntyre wrote: >>What's more secure about proximity chips in phone versus cards, and how >>could they be more secure than a magnetic stripe? > >>I cannot read a magnetic stripe unless I have physical possession; not >>true with proximity chips. > > The proximity chips in credit/cash cards in Europe have a PIN associated > with them that need to be entered at the same time. > > Presumably, the smartphone system would have some sort of control over > pin input interface with some level of control of what data can leave > the NFR chip rather than just having a contactless chip embedded in the > phone case somewhere. AFAIK all of these payment authorisation systems are based on physical tokens. The card with the mag stripe is just one sort of token (as it was before mag stripes were created and physical card imprints were taken). The card with the "Smartcard" chip in it which requires insertion into a terminal is another token, and the cards with the prox chips in them are also just another type of token. All of these tokens are (currently) issued and controlled by financial institutions and require authorised back-end infrastructure at a vendor to be utilised. How a "phone" gets involved in this system has me baffled. Currently the "Contactless" transactions use a prox chip token device (on a card) swiped within a short distance of a terminal device to process a transaction, I see nothing special about a "phone" that can replace the prox chip - with all the security etc. - that these financial institutions issue. The last thing financial institutions would want are phones capable of imitating prox chips (even if that was technically possible), so my question remains - what was that nebulous article actually about? The only [time] I have seen "phones" replace existing tokens is when using them with barcodes on their displays to replace physical items like Boarding Passes at airports or entry Tickets to venues - and I'd pretty certain that sort of thing won't apply to financial transactions. -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have.
Date: 29 Mar 2011 10:55:50 -0400 From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Scott Dorsey) To: email@example.com. Subject: Re: AT&T Wants DSL Customers On U-Verse? Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sam Spade <email@example.com> wrote: >John C. Fowler wrote: > >> I have no idea if this is there for convenience "just in case" they >> decide they don't want to provide DSL anymore when U-verse is >> available, or if this is the beginning of a DSL phase-out. I do know >> that one of the reasons I keep DSL is that nice CO-powered wire that >> stays active even when a big storm takes away our electricity for a >> week, something only the phone company can provide. If they take that >> away, suddenly their competitors start to look a lot more enticing. >> >> John C. Fowler, firstname.lastname@example.org > >What powers your DSL modem when the power at your premises is out for a >week? Mine runs off a 12V gel-cell, although it turns out the batteries in the SLC run out after about four days and then DSL and POTS service goes out anyway. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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