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The Telecom Digest for June 06, 2011
Volume 30 : Issue 143 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: Caller Pays vs. Called Party Pays (was Re: DSL Reports: AT&T Caps Have Arrived)(Wes Leatherock)
Re: There's no easy escape from cellphone risks(Wes Leatherock)
Re: Pre-paid SIM cards in the US(John Levine)

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Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:39:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Leatherock <wleathus@yahoo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Caller Pays vs. Called Party Pays (was Re: DSL Reports: AT&T Caps Have Arrived) Message-ID: <541434.30352.qm@web111724.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 6/3/11, Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com> wrote: > Let's not get into the old saw of "their system is better than > ours." In Europe and other countries where the subscriber doesn't > pay to receive calls the calls are not free. The initiator of the > call pays for all call charges and always at a non-negotiated rate. > Whatever the tariff is that's what the caller pays and very often at > a rate that's even higher than an international call to a regular > number. Most people in North America get calling plans that give > them a surfeit of available minutes or get a plan that gives them > enough minutes that they can make just necessary calls. I would think caller pays would severly restrict the usefulness of a cellphone. [Who] would pay to call their plumber, electrician or whatever if they only list a cellnumber? I notice quite a few commercial vehicles now that list only a number I recognize as a cell number. Most landline service in the U.S.A. is flat rate, so there is no marginal cost for making a call to a land line or to a cell number...in many cases the caller doesn't know which he or she is calling. And, as you note, most cell phone users have more minutes than they use, so there is no marginal cost there, either. Wes Leatherock wleathus@yahoo.com wesrock@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:44:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Leatherock <wleathus@yahoo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: There's no easy escape from cellphone risks Message-ID: <350918.21548.qm@web111710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 6/2/11, David Clayton <dcstarbox-usenet@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > One issue that might arise from these studies is he evolving changes > in radiation intensity which must have varied since the beginning of > cellphone networks. In the beginning when there were far fewer base > stations than there are now, the handsets must have been forced (on > average) to transmit at hight power levels which would have had > commensurate increase in any negative effects as outlined in these > studies. Nowadays one can make the judgement that with more cell > base stations (installed to meet the steadily increased demand) then > - overall - handset transmit power should have diminished for a lot > of users. There will be many exceptions in less dense service areas, > but the general concept should be valid. The bottom-line may be > that the effects - which take a long time to arise - may be less > harmful than a decade or so ago for the same overall time of phone > usage with the device next to your skull. Several commentators in the U.S.A. have noted that the possible danger is about the same as the WHO cites for drinking coffee. Wes Leatherock wleathus@yahoo.com wesrock@aol.com
Date: 5 Jun 2011 04:25:30 -0000 From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Pre-paid SIM cards in the US Message-ID: <20110605042530.5372.qmail@joyce.lan> >But it should be possible to snag a pre-paid SIM alone, without cheap >phone to go with it, more economically, no? You would think so, but in my experience you can usually get a prepaid with a SIM for less than just a SIM. >Cheers, -- tlvp (who's still hoping for answer to an analogous question >for use in Canada -- Vancouver, BC, more exactly -- for a coupla' weeks' >GSM data usage exclusively). Your choices are Rogers, Fido (owned by Rogers but run separately), and Telus. Bell and the other wirelines are CDMA. I think you will find that the phrase "cheap Canadian prepaid" is an oxymoron, but you can poke around on their web sites and see what they have to offer. R's, John
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